In this episode...

Live (live-to-tape) from 44Con, London, England.

It's amazing, listening to this episode recorded at 44Con last fall, how little the landscape of enterprise security has changed. I took some time during the busy conference to sit down with Ian Amit and Dennis Groves to discuss Ian and my talks (which were perfectly aligned, and completely unplanned!) on the state of security in the enterprise. It's always interesting to get the perspective from 2 industry-well-known speakers and thinkers.

We discuss the topics of #SecBiz including the role of security in the enterprise, the challenges business security professionals face, metrics and why we have some of the crazy change management failures in security. We laugh, we almost start to cry - but ultimately come to the realization that we need change. Ian and Dennis and I are working on driving that change!

Guests

• Iftach Ian Amit ( @iiamit ) - Seasoned manager in the security and software industry with vast experience in a myriad areas of software (from enterprise security, through retail oriented, to end user software and large back-end systems). Highly experienced in leading marketing opportunities, and translating technical innovation into marketable concepts that increase sales and exposure. Information Security expert with vast experience ranging from low level technical expertise and up to corporate security policy, regulatory compliance and strategy. BlackHat and DefCon speaker, with vast experience in public speaking and private customer focused seminars. Founding member of the PTES (Penetration Testing Execution Standard), IL-CERT, and the Tel-Aviv DefCon group (DC9723).
• Dennis Groves - Dennis's work focuses on a multidisciplinary approach to risk management. He is particularly interested in risk, randomness, and uncertainty. He holds an MSc in Information Security from the University of Royal Holloway where his thesis received a distinction. He is currently a UK expert for the UK mirror of ISO subcommittee 27, IT Security Techniques, working group 4, Security Controls and Services at the British Standards Institute. He is most well known for co-founding OWASP.

It's Monday April 22nd, 2013, and here are the topics from the last 2 weeks James ( @jardinesoftware ) and I ( @Wh1t3Rabbit ) will be talking about as we Monday-morning-quarterback the last 2 weeks in Information Security... Fair warning, we have way too many topics to fit into 20 minutes... so went a little bit longer but both feel it's well worth your time. Laugh, cry, and be informed.

Topics Covered

• Microsoft rolls out 2-factor authentication - James points out that Microsoft has rolled out authenticator-agnostic, robust 2-factor authentication... if only I could figure out how to use it? If you have any experiences with this, please share with us on Twitter, using the #DtR hashtag - http://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2013/04/11/microsoft-look-like-being-next-with-2fa/
• Oracle dumps a 42-patch bundle - Oracle has dropped a massive patch bundle, many of these are remotely exploitable Java issues, and it's not a walk in the part for Enterprise Security folks. Also ... we chuckle a little bit about the absolutely mindless new 'shape-coded' warnings - http://krebsonsecurity.com/2013/04/java-update-plugs-42-security-holes/
• US and China to work on cyber security? - In what James and I both thought was a botched April Fools' joke, it appears as though China & US have come together to decide who the real vicim in this 'cyber hacking' problem is, and what they're going to do about it going forward. Are we absolutely sure this isn't a farse? - http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/04/13/us-china-us-cyber-idUSBRE93C05T20130413?irpc=932
• Hacking a plane with an Android app? - A hacker has demonstrated (at the HitB Conference) that it is possible to remotely control a plane, in the setting of a lab. James and I talk about what the implications of this are... more to come - http://www.theatlanticwire.com/technology/2013/04/no-german-hacker-probably-cant-hijack-airplane-software/64158/
• Louisville Credit card processor HACKED - Another credit card processor hacked...and the notification comes from, you guessed it, a 3rd party - http://www.wave3.com/story/21911646/louisville-credit-card-processor-hacked-card-numbers-stolen
• Hacking ring targeting...video games? - A hacking ring was uncovered by Kaspersky that has, for a number of years, been targeting video games, their source code, and other components. To What end? we discuss - http://www.gamepolitics.com/2013/04/12/kaspersky-chinese-hacking-ring-has-hacked-multiple-mmo-game-servers
• US President Obama seeks a slight increase in technology spending - Does a 2% increase (which is actually a decrease) mean anything without context? Nope... - http://www.nextgov.com/cio-briefing/2013/04/tech-spending-projected-rise-fiscal-2014/62405/?oref=ng-HPtopstory
• FCC issues fines to 2 enterprises employing cell jammers - Apparently, importing, using cell phone jammes is actually against federal law, but we already know that. The FCC came down relatively easy on these two companies... - http://transition.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2013/db0409/FCC-13-47A1.pdf

In this episode...

• A critical discussion on the available 'cyber intelligence' reports from various vendors
• How hard is attribution in cyber space, really?
• "Alternative analysis" - why isn't it being used enough in cyber intelligence reporting?
• Discussion on 'degrees of certainty' and its apparent lack of application to cyber intelligence
• Extensive discussion on avoiding confirmation bias, critically reviewing intelligence work, and peer reviewing processes
• Kinetic responses to cyber threats and other outrageous rhetoric
• Hacking back? but hacking whom?

Guest

• Jeffrey Carr ( @JeffreyCarr ) - Jeffrey Carr is a cybersecurity analyst and expert.He lives in Seattle Washington. He is founder and CEO of Taia Global inc. He is also the founder and principal investigator of Project Grey Goose, an open source investigation into cyber conflicts including the Russian cyber attacks on Georgia, the Indian Eastern Railway Website defacement and the Israeli-Palestinian war in 2008 to 2009. He is also a government contractor who is consulted on Russian and Chinese cyber warfare strategy and tactics. [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Carr ]

In this second episode of our Monday morning InfoSec quarterbacking, James and I actually got through the news items we had lined up in just about 20 minutes. I count this as a win.

Topics Covered

• Choice Escrow & Land Title, LLC vs. BancorpSouth, Inc. | At issue is the Uniform Commercial Code (UCC) as it applies to commercial entities taking "commericially reasonable methods" to secure their transactions. This one is going to have a major ripple effect, keep an eye out for further developments - http://krebsonsecurity.com/2013/03/missouri-court-rules-against-440000-cyberheist-victim/
• "The biggest cyber attack ever" | Or really, a DDoS feud between a known spammer (CyberBunker) and a spam fighter (SpamHaus) which actually did impact Internet traffic in Europe, but was effectively a tempest in a teapot for most everyone else - http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/27/tech/massive-internet-attack/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
• Schnuck's gets hacker by "computer code", but it's OK now | Short version of this story, be careful how hard you play up the 'reputation' angle with your business ...turns out people may not care so much - http://www.stltoday.com/business/local/schnucks-says-credit-card-fraud-source-found-and-contained/article_605469bd-db5d-5a1b-94cf-100f4eabc58f.html
• Darkleech affects huge amount of Apache servers, silently installs iFrame-based malware selectively | People who name these things come up with some of the coolest names ...seriously! Interesting story. - http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Darkleech-infects-scores-of-Apache-servers-1834311.html
• BitCoin wallet service InstaWallet hacked, shuts down "indefinitely" | Oh, another BitCoin tragedy as the currency suffers yet another blow to its viability as hackers target a wallet service, value bounces. - http://venturebeat.com/2013/04/03/bitcoin-wallet-instawallet-hacked/

First ...a milestone.

I want to take this time to formally welcome Mr. James Jardine, of SecureIdeas, as my permanent co-host to the podcast. James has experience podcasting as he already co-pilots the Professionally Evil Podcast, and he's witty, knowledgeable, and awesome to work with on the microphone. I ask that you all give James a warm welcome!

In this episode...

• Overview of what cyber liability insurance is and what it isn't
• We ask "Why would we need a security program, when you can just buy insurance?"
• How do [cyber] under-writers figure out how to insure you, and how much of a liability your organization and its practices is?
• The types of costs and coverages available in some of the different policies at the various carriers
• We pull on the 'reputation' thread ... again
• We try to divine the magic formula used to calculate how to calculate a 'liability' or coverage requirement
• We try and figure out how an enterprise can drive down their cyber liability insurance premiums
• Christine touches on mobility, encryption, and some interesting tidbits for the modern enterprise

Guest

• Christine Marciano ( @DataPrivacyRisk ) - Christine Marciano is President of Cyber Data Risk Managers, an Independent Insurance Agency specializing in Cyber Risk/Data Breach insurance, Directors & Officers insurance and (IP) Intellectual Property protection. Christine has over 17 years of experience working in various roles within the Insurance and Financial Services industry. Prior to establishing Cyber Data Risk Managers, Christine has held positions at CIBC Oppenheimer, Axa Advisors and Allstate Insurance Company.

Links

• Christine's Blog - http://databreachinsurancequote.com/blog/
• My 2013 Data Privacy, InfoSec & Cyber Insurance Trends report - http://databreachinsurancequote.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/2013-Data-Privacy-Information-Security-and-Cyber-Insurance-Trends-Report.pdf
• Christine's free weekly newsletter signup page - http://databreachinsurancequote.com/subscribe-data-breach-weekly-newsletter/