Topics Covered

• The trash bin that stalked me (seriously, only in London) - http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/08/no-this-isnt-a-scene-from-minority-report-this-trash-can-is-stalking-you/ and a follow-up as we recorded today: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-23665490
• No data breach in Indianapolis, after laptop stolen/recovered - http://www.theindychannel.com/news/call-6-investigators/state-no-data-breach-after-stolen-laptop-traced-to-indy-home
• DDoS blackmail in Manchester (UK) FAIL - http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/two-held-over-attempted-blackmail-5680548
• US national health push ("Obamacare") falling behind on security testing...who's surprised? - http://au.news.yahoo.com/technology/news/article/-/18390597/obamacare-months-behind-in-testing-it-data-security-government/
• Weird password 'feature' in Chrome... - http://blog.elliottkember.com/chromes-insane-password-security-strategy

In this episode...

• Dave reminisces a bit...
• Dave discusses 'digitall signed malware' and that it means
• We discuss whether it's true that 'all networks are compromised'
• We discuss consumer-grade vs. corporate-grade threats, and why they're different
• An interesting point by Dave about why enterprises aren't learning from their compromises
• We discuss customized malware, with specific and targeted payloads for specific systems
• Dave talks about whether 'compat the criminal, hire the criminal' is true

Guest

• Dave Marcus ( @DaveMarcus ) - Dave is currently the Chief Architect, Advanced Research and Threat Intelligence McAfee Federal Advanced Programs Group. He's been around the industry for a long time, and has influenced countless numbers of researchers. He is well known as a fantastic speaker, subject-matter expert and generally a badass, and I feel lucky enough to call him my friend.

Ladies and gentlemen, we are over the 50 episodes mark!  If you've enjoyed the podcast, please go rate us in the iTunes store, or leave us a note here. Have you checked out past episodes?! There are some gems in there, I promise, and worth your time.

Topics Covered

• Charlie Miller and Chris Valasek demonstrated (and will disclose code to) the hack which allows complete (tethered) remote control of a modern vehicle. You need to watch this video, and if you develop code for transport vehicles and aren't thinking about securing your code - it's time to adjust course before you actually kill someone - http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/07/24/hackers-reveal-nasty-new-car-attacks-with-me-behind-the-wheel-video/ and this is how the UK 'muzzled' a researcher who did something similar - http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/07/28/birmingham_uni_car_cracker_muzzled_by_lords/
• Apple demonstrates how not to do breach disclosure, while Ibrahim Balic demonstrates how to jump into the spotlight (and put foot in mouth before thinking) by disclosing, video-recording, and telling the world of his 'ethical test' of Apple's forums - http://www.news.com.au/technology/ibrahim-balic-breaks-silence-on-hacking-apple-developer-site/story-e6frfro0-1226684484916 and http://gigaom.com/2013/07/22/researcher-comes-forward-to-claim-responsibility-for-intrusion-on-apple-developer-site/
• After many years on the run Russian super-hackers involved in the biggest breach of all time are caught - because they broke the first few rules of hiding - http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/07/26/us-usa-hackers-creditcards-arrests-idUSBRE96P02Z20130726
• Exciting news for those of you who are sick of Android App Developers' over-reaching nature in the permissions arena, with the release of 4.3 there is a glimmer of hope in reigning in those games that for some unknown reason require access to your contacts and 'premium services' and such - http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/07/25/app-ops-android-4-3s-hidden-app-permission-manager-control-permissions-for-individual-apps/

Welcome down the rabbithole as we hit EPISODE 50! I'm thrilled that we've made it this far, and look forward to having you along for the ride into the future! At this point, I'd like to encourage you to listen to some of the fascinating guests we've had on this show, people I'm proud to have had a chat with, in the past archives... suggest guests, or just leave us a comment.

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In this episode...

• We try and discuss 'defense in depth' on the geopolitical scale
• @packetknife drops the truth about 'geopolitics experts' in InfoSec
• Ali explains navigating the undocumented security requirements in emerging markets
• We talk about whether all this stolen data from enterprise has actually made a difference
• Ali discusses the 'western sense of intellectual property' (eye-opening!)
• Deperimeterization - why #InfoSec must adapt this RIGHT NOW, but seems allergic to it
• Ali drops 'lawfare' on us - and why #InfoSec must know its options
• Wwe discuss why people 'generally just don't get it' when it comes to moving to triage over 'secure'
• Ali decides he wants to be Frank, or is that frank? :-)

Guest

• Ali-Reza Anghaie ( @PacketKnife ) - Ali is a resident expert (or as much as one can be) on geopolitics from his unique background, experience and perspective. He's a well-known figure in the community and has deep insight into the things that most of us read in the media, and pretend to understand. He's the perfect guest for Episode 50!

Topics Covered

• 9 Years After Shadowcrew, Feds Get Their Hands on Fugitive Cybercrook
• http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/07/bulgarian-shadowcrew-arrest
• vBulletin Forums compromised (~15-~150k) to serve malware
• http://news.softpedia.com/news/Around-150-000-vBulletin-Forums-Compromised-Abused-to-Serve-Malware-366442.shtml
• America's EAS (Emergency Alert System) is open to compromise (still)
• http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/07/eas-holes/
• Mobile malware up 614% y/y says Juniper, but mostly Android
• http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9240772/Mobile_malware_mainly_aimed_at_Android_devices_jumps_614_in_a_year
• Blue Box Security finds "master key" issue with Android - but there's more to it
• http://www.zdnet.com/android-oems-slow-to-roll-out-bluebox-security-patch-7000018012/

In this episode...

• We get a little insight into the mind of Tomer, and how he thinks about security
• We get an insight into what HP Software IT Management is doing to ensure security in the products they release
• We discuss making security more than just a security line-item, and a business requirement
• There are many "uncomfortable pauses" :)
• We discuss Tomer's risk-focused approach to software quality
• We ask "Is HP drinking it's own champagne?"
• Tomer gives us his feeling on DevOps

Guest

• Tomer Gershoni - Tomer is the Information Security Officer responsible for product security for a select part of HP Software known as IT Management. Previous to that he was the CISO for HP Software-as-a-Service for over 3 years based out of Yehud, Israel. Tomer has over 10 years experience in Information Security and a background in software security. He is a very interesting individual, and his public profile can be found on LinkedIn here: http://il.linkedin.com/in/tomergershoni

*Apologies for this very important episode getting out a bit late ladies and gents, experienced a loss in the family so things were a little slow to re-start, we should be back on track for next week's episode.

Topics Covered

• Political hacktivism is making a big splash in international news - 
• http://www.ilovechile.cl/2013/06/17/chile-democratic-partys-official-site-hacked/87737
• http://www.kjrh.com/dpp/news/local_news/jenks/jenks-chamber-of-commerce-website-hacked-for-second-time-within-a-month
• http://www.publicnewshub.com/zimbabwean-hackers-hailed-for-attacking-ancs-website/
• http://www.bignewsnetwork.com/index.php/sid/215436810/scat/b8de8e630faf3631/ht/South-and-North-Korea-close-website-amid-hacking-alerts
• http://www.business-standard.com/article/pti-stories/syria-s-online-troops-wage-counter-revolutionary-cyber-war-113060900065_1.html
• http://www.ehackingnews.com/2013/06/turkish-ministry-of-interior-website.html
• Google Published their epic Transparency Report data
• http://krebsonsecurity.com/2013/06/web-badness-knows-no-bounds/
• http://www.google.com/transparencyreport/
• European Union issues new data breach laws for telecommunications industry
• http://www.infosecurity-magazine.com/view/33109/eu-announces-new-data-breach-rules-for-telecoms/
• Critical vulnerabilities found in CROWD single sign-on product
• http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9240487/Critical_vulnerabilities_found_in_Atlassian_Crowd_enterprise_single_sign_on_tool
• Facebook offers (pays!) $20,000 flaw for brilliant business-logic bug
• http://www.eweek.com/security/facebook-patches-mobile-text-vulnerability-rewards-flaw-discoverer/
• Microsoft launchges a bug bounty program, for IE11 and more
• http://www.microsoft.com/security/msrc/report/bountyprograms.aspx#
• http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/06/microsoft-bug-bounty-program/
• Opera code signing certificate stolen and used to sign malware
• http://www.eweek.com/security/opera-data-breach-exposes-legions-of-windows-users-to-malware-attack/

In this episode...

• The gang discusses the issues with the rapid escalation of connectivity in modern-day industrial control systems
• What specialized skills are needed to be a SCADA or ICS hacker
• A nervous pause as vulnerabilities in ICS systems which could affect the adult beverage industry are touched upon
• Discussion on how to deal with 25 year patch cycles
• Why is it that embedded devices simply don't get patched like your other systems?
• What are the real issues with ICS systems, and why they're not getting enough attention...yet

Guest

• Mr. Billy Rios ( @XSSniper ) - In addition to being a long-time friend of mine, and one of the most knowledgable and humble people in the hacking space, Billy is currently a Technical Director and the Director of Consulting for Cylance. Billy is an accomplished web application hacker releasing an XSS tool which is currently his Twitter handle. While being a "big picture" guy, Billy also tackles some of the most complex large-scale ICS issues, and with his team works to identify and remediate threats to his clients.

This week, James is flying solo on the microphone catching you up on all the latest news and BIG stories since I'm at HP Discover, Las Vegas and Suits and Spooks in La Jolla, CA. A busy week all the way around, some pretty earth-shattering news coming out!

Topics Covered

• We couldn't be the only ones NOT covering the big NSA leak and revelations of spying and other surveillance. Somewhere in the hype, though, is the enterprise story of insider threat - http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/09/nsa-secret-surveillance-lawmakers-live
• Google Glass is in the news, again, this time from an enterprise perspective. In light of the slight insider threat problem revealed lately, how will Google's glasses impact security, and society in general for good or evil? - http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9240077/Google_Glass_could_get_a_look_at_the_enterprise
• Apple made the news with iOS7 and the big "kill switch" feature, is this really a good idea that actually works or a desperate gimmick to demonstrate innovation? (especially in light of the lock screen bypass in iOS7 beta! - http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/11/tech/mobile/iphone-ios7-kill-switch
  http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/06/12/bug-in-ios-7-beta-lets-anyone-bypass-iphone-lockscreen-to-access-photos/
• Google noticed a significant spike in phishing traffic to GMail around the Iranian "election" (and I use that in quotes on purpose), an interesting developing story - http://money.cnn.com/2013/06/14/technology/security/google-phishing-iran/index.html
• Last but certainly not least, how about that 2+ year old Adobe Flash bug that's being exploited in Chrome to allow attackers (or just perverts) to spy on you using your webcam... creepy! - http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/06/14/two-year-old-flash-bug-still-allows-webcam-spying-on-chrome-users/

In this episode...

• We discuss the true nature of many of the security products decisions CISOs have to make every day
• Frank and Raf make very poorly thought-out sports analogies
• There are uncomfortable length of silence (mostly edited out)
• The crew discusses NSS Labs, and what they do to help the CISOs out there make smarter decisions
• "Someone" asks about anti-virus...

[ More info on NSS Labs and the two guests today can be found here: https://www.nsslabs.com/analysts and https://www.nsslabs.com/ ]

Guests

• Frank Artes ( @franklyfranc ) - Research Director Francisco Artes is a recognized information security executive who has helped form some of the motion picture & television industry’s best practices for securing intellectual property.  Artes is also know for his work with on cybercrime, hacking and forensic security issues with various federal, state and local government and law enforcement agencies such as the US Dept. of Homeland Security, the FBI, the Texas Rangers, US Marshals and several others.  Mr. Artes most recently served as Vice President, Chief Architect / Content Protection for Trace3, and as Vice President, Security Worldwide for Deluxe Entertainment Services Group. Artes has presented on six of the seven continents, serves on several boards and is a Trusted Adviser for The Security Consortium.
• John Pirc ( @jopirc ) - Research Vice President John Pirc is a noted security intelligence and cybercrime expert, an author and a renowned speaker, with more than 15 years of experience across all areas of security. The co-author of two books, “Blackhatonomics: An Inside Look at the Economics of Cybercrime” (published in December 2012), and “Cyber Crime and Espionage” (published in February 2011), Pirc has been named a security thought leader from the SANS Institute and speaks at top tier security conferences worldwide. Mr. Pirc’s extensive expertise in the security field includes roles in cybersecurity research and development for the Central Intelligence Agency, Chief Technology Officer at CSG LTD, Product Manager at Cisco, Product Line Executive for Security Products at IBM Internet Security Systems, Director of McAfee's Network Defense Business Unit and, most recently, Director of Security Intelligence at HP Enterprise Security Products, where he led the strategy for next generation security products. In addition to a bachelor's degree in Business Administration, Pirc holds the NSA-IAM and CEH certifications.

It's June already?! Where has the first half of 2013 gone? James and I break down the last 2 weeks of interesting InfoSec news in a short "Monday morning quarterback" style... enjoy!

Topics Covered

• Evernote adds 2-step veficication for their authentication, and follows suit with just about every other 'modern' app. Following on the hells of Twitter, LinkedIn, FaceBook, Apple and the one that started it all, Google - we're now getting multi-step authentication from Evernote. Free users not welcome ...yet? - http://blog.evernote.com/blog/2013/05/30/evernotes-three-new-security-features/
• Dropbox down for more than an hour, but it wasn't a security bug (we don't think), it's just that they had 'technical difficulty'. If you depend on Dropbox for your file synchronization services, you knew this happened - http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9239648/Dropbox_goes_down_for_more_than_an_hour
• NIST 500-299 "Cloud COmputing Security Reference Architecture" document is released. There's a bit of irony here, as the document itself is a whopping 299 pages! - http://collaborate.nist.gov/twiki-cloud-computing/pub/CloudComputing/CloudSecurity/NIST_Security_Reference_Architecture_2013.05.15_v1.0.pdf
• Drupal.org has been hacked, and it appears 2013 just isn't a good year for the folks over at Drupal. Apparently about 1 million accounts have been compromised/affected, and all accounts had their passwords reset - I apparently had a Drupal account I don't remember anymore and my password was reset too - http://techcrunch.com/2013/05/29/drupal-org-hacked-user-details-exposed-and-reset/
• Google changed its disclosure policy for critical issues that are actively being exploited from the standard 60 days, to 7. A week. 7 days down from 60 ... this needs more reading and discussion - http://www.csoonline.com/article/734286/google-zero-day-disclosure-change-slammed-praised
• Hackers are exploiting Ruby on Rails vulnerability that was patched this past January, so zero-day no longer applies... the lesson here is to patch in a timely fashion! - http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9239588/Hackers_exploit_Ruby_on_Rails_vulnerability_to_compromise_servers_create_botnet?taxonomyId=17

In this episode...

• John discusses some of the foundational principles of Threat Modeling
• We talk about why threat modeling is like your time in high school
• We discuss why threat modeling is such an incredibly important tool to the enterprise
• John gives us some nuggets of his experience with threat modeling enterprise applications

Guest

• John Steven ( @m1splacedsoul ) - John Steven is the Internal CTO at Cigital with over a decade of hands-on experience in software security. John’s expertise runs the gamut of software security from threat modeling and architectural risk analysis, through static analysis (with an emphasis on automation), to security testing. As a consultant, John has provided strategic direction as a trusted advisor to many multi-national corporations. John’s keen interest in automation keeps Cigital technology at the cutting edge. He has served as co-editor of the Building Security In department of IEEE Security & Privacy magazine, speaks with regularity at conferences and trade shows, and is the leader of the Northern Virginia OWASP chapter. John holds a B.S. in Computer Engineering and an M.S. in Computer Science both from Case Western Reserve University.
  
  John is known for his in-depth work in software security, his expertise in the field of threat modeling, and his snarkcasm. If you don't follow John on Twitter or haven't attended one of the talks he's been known to give occasionally - I recommend you do so. 

Welcome to Monday, May 20th 2013 as James and I discuss the last 2 weeks' worth of Information Security news and relate it (attemptively) to your enterprise day-job. This week was a bit on the lighter side, with the quote of the year (as far as I'm concerned) winner going to the Washington State Administrative Office of the Court for ...well, you'll just have to read the rest of the show notes and listen to the podcast.

Also ... we are now on the Zune store. So ...to the 2 new Zune listeners - HELLO!

Topics Covered

• Researches at Trend Micro uncover new cyberespionage campaign call it SafeNet (in unrelated news SafeNet the security company had nothing to do with this...). Yet another cyberespionage campaign targeting users with revolutionary new technique called "phishing", and using a vulnerability in Microsoft software patched in April 2012, originating from ... <wait for it> China! -  http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9239342/Researchers_uncover_SafeNet_a_new_global_cyberespionage_operation
• Domain registrar, Name.com hacked, customer information including potentially usernames, email addresses, encrypted passwords (just how encrypted are we talking here? ROT13? double-XOR?), and encrypted (same question as before) credit card information potentially stolen. Again, the vector of choice is this revolutionary new tequnique called ... <wait for it> phishing - http://www.pcworld.com/article/2038263/namecom-forces-customers-to-reset-passwords-following-security-breach.html
• Godzilla hacked EC-Council (this needs no explanation) - http://www.esecurityplanet.com/hackers/ec-council-hacked.html
• Four former LulzSec members (former?) sentenced for their roles in the 2011 attacks on companies such as Sony, Nintendo, News Corp, the CIA and many others. Sentences range from a 30-month prison term for "Kayla" to 200 hours of community services for T-Flow. Justice? Interested to hear what you think - http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9239302/Four_former_LulzSec_members_sentenced_to_prison_in_the_UK
• Washington State's court system has been compromised, exposing 160,000 social security numbers and a million drivers' license numbers - basically everything you'd ever need to steal someone's identity. Luckily officials have determined that only 94 of those were definitely obtained by the attacker (what?!). Also, ridiculous quote of the year honors go to the "officials" for this: ".. officials at first believed no confidential information was leaked even though a large amount of data was downloaded from the website, the Washington State Administrative Office of the Courts said." - http://tech2.in.com/news/general/up-to-160000-social-security-numbers-exposed-in-washington-state-court-hack/872700

In this episode...

• Kevin, James and I discuss why penetration testing reports are often so worthless
• Kevin and I disagree. Then we agree, sort of.
• We discuss the major differences between the 'builder' and 'breaker' mindset, and whether they're actually different people
• Kevin gives some fantastic examples of how context and experience is critical in penetration testing
• We provide guidance no how someone can 'break into' (no pun intended) penetration testing and be effective
• Kevin gives an example of how someone can be a great penetration tester, but be of little value beyond that
• We wrap by disussing how enterprises can gain value from penetration testing- and Kevin provides an interesting strategy

Guest

• Kevin Johnson ( @SecureIdeas ) - Kevin Johnson is the Chief Executive Officer of Secure Ideas. Kevin has a long history in the IT field including system administration, network architecture and application development. He has been involved in building incident response and forensic teams, architecting security solutions for large enterprises and penetration testing everything from government agencies to Fortune 100 companies. In addition, Kevin is an instructor and author for the SANS Institute and a faculty member at IANS. He is also a contributing blogger at TheMobilityHub.  Kevin is also very involved in the open source community. He runs a number of open source projects. These include SamuraiWTF; a web pen-testing environment, Laudanum; a collection of injectable web payloads, Yokoso; an infrastructure fingerprinting project and a number of others. Kevin is also involved in MobiSec and SH5ARK. Kevin was the founder and lead of the BASE project for Snort before transitioning that to another developer.

It's another beautiful Monday (somewhere) and we've got the news of the last 2 weeks covered, and we're breaking it down for you. The news this week is, well, quite frankly kind of dark. Everything tells us we're in for a rough ride for the rest of the year, and it's only getting worse.

If I sound a little funny, it's because I'm talking through a massive sinus infection and it's making me talk funny and stuffy.  Also the recording you hear is take 2 ... I had a major technology fail so we had to re-record, with less sadness.

Topics Covered

• We are happy to report that Justin Beiber is in fact, not coming out of the closet and E! Online was only hacked by those wacky military hackers from the Syrian Electronic Army. Apparently they've been on quite the hacking spree of media outlets and even put a major - albeit brief - dent in the stock market! - http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/e-online-twitter-account-hacked-article-1.1335214
• The US Department of Labor was hacked, in what appears to be a very targeted 'watering hole' attack aimed at Nuclear employees. The attackers, if the stories are true, burned an IE8 0-day on this one, and of course they are Chinese - http://www.eweek.com/security/zero-day-exploit-enabled-cyber-attack-on-us-labor-department/
• Anonymous is threatening a massive attack against the White House (the political entity not the ...nevermind), Bank of America, Citibank and other targets on May 7th. Are these folks just becoming part of the 'background noise' of the Internet? Are security professionals just starting to become numb to the DDoS attacks? - http://pastebin.com/TyvAK20F
• Chinese hackers have apparently ransacked QinetiQ, a defense contractor with ties to global cyber intelligence operations, spooks,and other interesting things. Bloomberg's write-up was not kind to these guys - http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-05-01/china-cyberspies-outwit-u-s-stealing-military-secrets.html
• In the perfect illustration of the fact that insider threats are real a systems manager returned to the company he was no longer employed at and wreaked havok. Folks, there is no magic 1U box that will stop this sort of attack, be vigiland and have good auditing and processes! - http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9238874/Systems_manager_arrested_for_hacking_former_employer_39_s_network